Lee Trundle 8:32 Mon May 15
HOTY
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Who's your choice? Likely to be Rice again, but no real stand outs.
You can vote here, if you're bothered:
https://www.whufc.com/news/vote-now-your-202223-hammer-year-and-womens-hammer-year
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Mace66
2:05 Thu Jun 8
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I think Bowen wrapped this up tonight !?
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southbankbornnbred
4:26 Fri May 19
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Yep, it has to be The Stairmen now, doesn’t it?
Fucked if I’m trying to get up some stairs to present them with the trophy, though.
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Mex Martillo
8:43 Thu May 18
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Antonio for me
Paqueta second choice
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The Stoat
9:58 Tue May 16
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End of Season piss up cancelled by all accounts
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The Mercernary
6:40 Tue May 16
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Mubama with his great shot accuracy % - the best we have! 3 shots 1 goal. Get him on the pitch more.
Also, looking at Scamacca's stats and makes you wonder how many League goals we've missed out on. 25 games and most of those were in Europe.
Scorch - Bowen was the surprise for me, but you're right, who would he have available to pass to?! Maybe he also tries riskier passes than most too.
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Nagel
6:37 Tue May 16
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El Scorchio 6:11 Tue May 16
Yeah, this is the reason why I think most stats are fucking bollocks, especially individual stats, which don't take into account team tactics, opposition tactics, etc.
I suspect that the reason de Bruyne mentioned it recently is that his pass completion rate is pretty bad, not even in the top 200 in the Premier League. It's lower than Benrahma's, and as I've mentioned to the statto's on here before, until last month it was even lower than Soucek's!
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El Scorchio
6:16 Tue May 16
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Just looked it up- interesting actually. Benrahma is so much higher than i thought. Very interesting seen as he's often slaughtered for losing the ball.
Not surprised to see Bowen and Antonio low. Those poor fuckers seldom actually have the chance to make a simple or easy pass. Coufal is surprising. Maybe he's too ambitious.
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El Scorchio
6:11 Tue May 16
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The Mercernary 5:26
I suspect Paqueta and Benrahma are likely two of them- but TBH that would be largely because they are willing to play the risky passes that the others won't do.
KDB was saying the other day he doesn't think much of pass accuracy and would rather have a lower percentage but actually try to take risks create things- or words to that effect. I'm inclined to agree with that, provided the players use common sense as to when to put the ball at risk and when to keep it safe.
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The Mercernary
5:28 Tue May 16
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/teams/west-ham-united/top-scorers/assists
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The Mercernary
5:26 Tue May 16
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In case you were wondering where the others were (0 goals):
Aaron Cresswell
3 Assists 0 goals 35 played
Thilo Kehrer
2 Assists 0 goals 32 played
Maxwel Cornet
1 Assist 0 goals 18 played
Ben Johnson
1 Assist 0 goals 26 played
Vladimír Coufal
1 Assist 0 goals 34 played
There's also data on Chances Created, Chances per 90, Total Passes, Passes Complete, Passes Incomplete and Pass Accuracy. Don't want to do information overload though...
Who wants to guess on Soucek's pass accuracy? Also, which 3 players passing is worse than his?
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The Mercernary
5:17 Tue May 16
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For anyone who wants to look at the stats. This includes all 1st team competitions. It's in goals order at the moment.
Goals, Assists, Played, Goals per 90 mins, Mins per Goal, Total Shots, Goal Conversion, Shot Accuracy
Sorry in advance for the lack of alignment...
Michail Antonio
13 4 43 0.46 195 54 24% 54%
Jarrod Bowen
10 6 49 0.23 389 56 18% 57%
Saïd Benrahma
10 4 47 0.33 273 73 14% 53%
Gianluca Scamacca
6 0 25 0.45 201 34 18% 44%
Lucas Paquetá
5 5 37 0.17 524 42 12% 43%
Pablo Fornals
5 2 44 0.23 391 34 15% 44%
Declan Rice
4 4 46 0.10 947 26 15% 35%
Danny Ings
3 0 19 0.35 259 8 38% 63%
Tomás Soucek
2 5 45 0.05 1653 33 6% 42%
Emerson
2 2 31 0.08 1094 13 15% 62%
Manuel Lanzini
2 1 19 0.17 515 11 18% 36%
Kurt Zouma
2 0 28 0.08 1132 19 11% 32%
Nayef Aguerd
2 0 27 0.08 1196 15 13% 27%
Divin Mubama
1 0 5 0.57 159 3 33% 67%
Craig Dawson
1 0 13 0.09 1044 8 13% 25%
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El Scorchio
4:58 Tue May 16
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Rice, and it's not even close.
Only other viable candidates are Bowen, Benrahma (yes, Benrahma) Antonio and Paqueta.
Bowen and (Benny- by far) have been less consistent and they just aren't as good but have had matchwinning contributions or performances, Antonio has chipped in and been good in flashes once more the workhorse. Paqueta would be in serious consideration but he's only come alive in the last 6-8 weeks and that's really not enough.
Neither goalie, not a single defender on the books or any other player has made any sort of lasting impact or been anything like even consistent this season. Some because they've barely played, others because they've been bang average, be it skill level or the way they've been asked to play.
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Russ of the BML
4:51 Tue May 16
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Keep dreaming 11:30 Mon May 15
Bowen?
When you say the rest have been mostly shit, how are you not putting him in that category?
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Vexed
3:19 Tue May 16
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gph 12:43 Tue May 16
Look at you getting all flouncy. By your description HOTY should just be awarded to our best player regardless of how much effort they've show all season. Whereas if you've been watching us for more than three seasons you'd see that it usually the player that has performed to the best of their ability who gets HOTY. And that's how it should be. You can't tell me that Cresswell, Gabbidon and Schemmel were the best players in the squad those years because it would be bollocks. Rice is arguably our best player but in terms of effort he's been nowhere near his top level, especially leading up to the WC.
You might need to look some of those players up son.
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Razzle
11:51 Tue May 16
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Rice no other candidate
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Nagel
8:46 Tue May 16
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Rice was clearly our best player this season. If he was as bad as some people make out then obviously there wouldn't be any of this talk of him going to a top 4 club for £100m+. Sure, he wasn't at his best and in a poorly performing team he didn't really stand out the way Scott Parker did in 2010 & 2011, but I guess the rest of our team then were worse than the current lot so it stood out more.
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terry-h
2:54 Tue May 16
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Mr Gold.
He really loved West Ham and he was probably bullied by Sullivan and Brady into leaving the Boleyn Ground.
RIP Mr Gold.
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,
1:30 Tue May 16
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Rice with Dawson as runner up.
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wd40
12:57 Tue May 16
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supporters of the year goes to ....
not you lot .
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